Friday, September 24, 2010

Not everything is as black and white as it may appear: Dissertation on Infidelity

I read the following on facebook:

MARRIAGE

When I got home that night as my wife served dinner, I held her hand and said, I've got something to tell you. She sat down and ate quietly. Again I observed the hurt in her eyes.

Suddenly I didn't know how to open my mouth. But I had to let her know what I was thinking. I want a divorce. I raised the topic calmly.

She didn't seem to be annoyed by my words, instead she asked me softly, why?

I avoided her question. This made her angry. She threw away the chopsticks and shouted at me, you are not a man! That night, we didn't talk to each other. She was weeping. I knew she wanted to find out what had happened to our marriage. But I could hardly give her a satisfactory answer; she had lost my heart to Jane. I didn't love her anymore. I just pitied her!

With a deep sense of guilt, I drafted a divorce agreement which stated that she could own our house, our car, and 30% stake of my company.

She glanced at it and then tore it into pieces. The woman who had spent ten years of her life with me had become a stranger. I felt sorry for her wasted time, resources and energy but I could not take back what I had said for I loved Jane so dearly. Finally she cried loudly in front of me, which was what I had expected to see. To me her cry was actually a kind of release. The idea of divorce which had obsessed me for several weeks seemed to be firmer and clearer now.

The next day, I came back home very late and found her writing something at the table. I didn't have supper but went straight to sleep and fell asleep very fast because I was tired after an eventful day with Jane.

When I woke up, she was still there at the table writing. I just did not care so I turned over and was asleep again.

In the morning she presented her divorce conditions: she didn't want anything from me, but needed a month's notice before the divorce. She requested that in that one month we both struggle to live as normal a life as possible. Her reasons were simple: our son had his exams in a month's time and she didn't want to disrupt him with our broken marriage.

This was agreeable to me. But she had something more, she asked me to recall how I had carried her into out bridal room on our wedding day.

She requested that every day for the month's duration I carry her out of our bedroom to the front door ever morning. I thought she was going crazy. Just to make our last days together bearable I accepted her odd request.

I told Jane about my wife's divorce conditions. . She laughed loudly and thought it was absurd. No matter what tricks she applies, she has to face the divorce, she said scornfully.

My wife and I hadn't had any body contact since my divorce intention was explicitly expressed. So when I carried her out on the first day, we both appeared clumsy. Our son clapped behind us, daddy is holding mommy in his arms. His words brought me a sense of pain. From the bedroom to the sitting room, then to the door, I walked over ten meters with her in my arms. She closed her eyes and said softly; don't tell our son about the divorce. I nodded, feeling somewhat upset. I put her down outside
the door. She went to wait for the bus to work. I drove alone to the office.

On the second day, both of us acted much more easily. She leaned on my chest. I could smell the fragrance of her blouse. I realized that I hadn't looked at this woman carefully for a long time. I realized she was not young any more. There were fine wrinkles on her face, her hair was graying! Our marriage had taken its toll on her. For a minute I wondered what I had done to her.

On the fourth day, when I lifted her up, I felt a sense of intimacy returning. This was the woman who had given ten years of her life to me.

On the fifth and sixth day, I realized that our sense of intimacy was growing again. I didn't tell Jane about this. It became easier to carry her as the month slipped by. Perhaps the everyday workout made me stronger.

She was choosing what to wear one morning. She tried on quite a few dresses but could not find a suitable one. Then she sighed, all my dresses have grown bigger. I suddenly realized that she had grown so thin, that was the reason why I could carry her more easily.

Suddenly it hit me... she had buried so much pain and bitterness in her heart. Subconsciously I reached out and touched her head.

Our son came in at the moment and said, Dad, it's time to carry mom out. To him, seeing his father carrying his mother out had become an essential part of his life. My wife gestured to our son to come closer and hugged him tightly. I turned my face away because I was afraid I might change my mind at this last minute. I then held her in my arms, walking from the bedroom, through the sitting room, to the hallway. Her hand surrounded my neck softly and naturally. I held her body tightly; it was just like our wedding day.

But her much lighter weight made me sad. On the last day, when I held her in my arms I could hardly move a step. Our son had gone to school. I held her tightly and said, I hadn't noticed that our life lacked intimacy.

I drove to office.... jumped out of the car swiftly without locking the door. I was afraid any delay would make me change my mind...I walked upstairs. Jane opened the door and I said to her, Sorry, Jane, I do not want the divorce anymore.

She looked at me, astonished, and then touched my forehead. Do you have a fever? She said. I moved her hand off my head. Sorry, Jane, I said, I won't divorce. My marriage life was boring probably because she and I didn't value the details of our lives, not because we didn't love each other anymore. Now I realize that since I carried her into my home on our wedding day I am supposed to hold her until death do us apart.

Jane seemed to suddenly wake up. She gave me a loud slap and then slammed the door and burst into tears. I walked downstairs and drove away.

At the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet of flowers for my wife. The salesgirl asked me what to write on the card. I smiled and wrote, I'll carry you out every morning until death do us apart.

That evening I arrived home, flowers in my hands, a smile on my face, I run up stairs, only to find my wife in the bed - dead.
My wife had been fighting CANCER for months and I was so busy with Jane to even notice. She knew that she would die soon and she wanted to save me from the whatever negative reaction from our son, in case we push thru with the divorce.-- At least, in the eyes of our son--- I'm a loving husband....


Most people would have read this and cried. It just made me salty but not in a weepy way. First off the woman who was the wife wins no merit from me for keeping her illness a secret from her husband. While he is no saint for cheating, I know that animals who are not hungry do not hunt. Had this man's wife trusted in her best friend the seriousness regarding her disease and kept him in her heart as the person she married rather then lying, he never would have gotten that far in his disloyalty to his marriage.

That is where I will begin with this blog

Why does every one assume that it is the cheating partner's fault when it happens? Even a starving house cat would scoop up a mouse for sustenance. We are all in our most basic form, animals. When our needs are not met for an extended period of time we will and often do find a new source for what is needed. I am sure most women will crucify me for saying this but I do not believe that the male human being is meant to be monogamous. There are several hundred thousand geniuses of species that roam this planet where one male services and mates with several female. The concept of monogamy was brought forth for three simple purposes:

1) to limit the spread of disease
2) to limit inbreeding
3) because women pushed for it to become common place in Anglo-Saxon, Christian, Puritanical Society.

Some cultures and societies that still exist today allow for men to have multiple wives for different purposes. But I digress on this area of the topic and go back to why people cheat.
People cheat because one or several if not all of the following are not being met: Emotional needs, Physical needs and/or, Psychological needs. There is a small percentage of sex addicts that do exist but those people are not usually drawn to making serious commitments to one other person due to their intimacy issues.


So lets focus on why men may cheat on women....

As a woman I have often had the unrealistic expectation that the man I am with has such a connection to me he knows what I need with out me telling him. This modern assumption can and will lead to the break up of your relationships ladies and if it is causing you to be dissatisfied in your marriage; you only have you to blame.
Women need to talk to men about what their needs are that is the first step in not having your man stray.
The second step is listening to him and respecting him. I see way too many women be disrespectful and rude to their male partners in public. This does not endear him to you ladies. It will cause him to seek out some one who does admire him and will listen to him.
The third is knowing your man's limitations. Don't ask more of him then he can handle. Men are not women, they can not do all that we do. The old saying is a man's work is from sun to sun, a woman's work is never done. I joke about it but it is true. We all need play time but fact is woman have sought to change the rules not men. Women want careers and family and to keep up with the Jones. Most men would be happy with a good home cooked meal at the end of the day and a woman who actually enjoys fucking him. They are not complex creatures. It is women's wants, needs and desires that have placed so much pressure on the American male. One child isn't good enough - women are now seeking to have litters of children they can not handle or afford. They expect their male counter part to assist in running the household and taking care of the children in addition to bringing home a decent pay check. Remember ladies we were created to be help mates to men not the other way around. In primal cultures women took care of the home and children and men simply hunted. That is all. We have been the ones who now want to be the hunters and we are expecting men to play house. Well no wonder they have now created many different venues to maintain their manhood. Can we honestly and blindly blame them?


So lets focus on why women may cheat on men....

For some women at least for me it stems back not my inability to communicate my needs to my partner. It is also the ease in which I can get men to pay attention to me if I want it. Dissatisfaction + Opportunity = Disaster.  I have often found myself in situations where rather then making an effort to be heard because let's face it most men are as deep as a waning puddle in the Sahara Desert that I would simply rather find comfort with some one else. Sometimes out of spite. If he won't listen, If I am not being heard to fuck him I will fuck some one else. But this is nothing new. Queen Guinevere cheated on King Arthur with Sir Lancelot centuries ago so this type of pattern has been emerging for a very long time. But for women cheating goes beyond a mere simple need for physical intimacy. It is an indication that the relationship she is in is very emotionally unhealthy.

My point in this post that that cheating is not a one sided issue. Both partners are to blame not so much for the act it's self but in not maintain the relationship and communicating, or in staying with a partner who is clearly not focused on what is important: The relationship. Whether it is a wife who has sexual hang ups or denies intimacy based on personal issues and illnesses she is refusing to share or a man who can not express himself emotionally. Both partners are to blame when one commits an act of infidelity.

I feel it is time to stop vilifying people who cheat. Not everything is as black and white as it may appear.

Saturday, September 18, 2010

Can a "night off" work in a long term relationship?: The Sex, Marriage & Religion Debate

 My Friend Brian Stinga whom I have known since childhood always posts intriguing questions on facebook. These are usually accompanied by a link to an article he has recently read on a hot button topic. Today was no different:

Brian Stinga: Can a "night off" work in a long term relationship?

Posted along with a link to this article: I Gave My Boyfriend a Night Off -- With Another Woman
 
My Reply to Brian's Article:

I read it and well Brian you know I don't view the world or life in the same way most people do. So here is what I have to say: Life offers no dress rehearsal. We also don't get an expiration date stamped on our tummy like a carton of milk

When you break it down to logic: There will be people you love in your life that you will never have sex with so why is it so hard for people to believe that you can have sex with people you will never love? Many species of life on this planet is not monogamous. We like to believe that as evolved intelligent animals we should control our urges. What about being epicurean and going with our nature - If it feels good do it!

It is in fact our lack of evolution as well as maturity in who we are that causes feelings of jealousy and insecurity that are the cause as well as the effect of infidelity. If two people are whole people and secure in who they are, one partner or the other exploring something that can give them pleasure shouldn't be an issue. Of course I say this is good only of the four pillars of all healthy relationships are in place: Complete Honesty, Unconditional Trust, Mutual Admiration and Respect of Boundaries. If you don't have those four aspects with some one down you two shouldn't really be committed to each other.

A wise woman once told me as a young girl when I questioned her on why her husband's indiscretions didn't seem to bother her: "My husband is my best friend he shares his life with me, we have a family together, he makes me happy. Why the hell should I care who he sticks his dick into on occasion?" I laughed because it reminded me of a quote from The World According to Garp: "In this dirty minded world, you are either someone's wife or someone's whore. And if you're not either people think there is something wrong with you....but there is nothing wrong with me" — John Irving (The World According to Garp)

Marriage and Monogamy were invented for 3 simple reasons:

1) to limit the spread of disease among the ignorant and uneducated

2) to limit inbreeding among the ignorant and uneducated

3) because women pushed for it to become common place in Anglo-Saxon, Christian, Puritanical Society.

At this time I am seeing some one whom I adore. While I have little to no interest in exploring anything in a sexual manner or having different partners. He is aware that not only am I "ok" with him doing what he pleases but that I am his advocate in this matter. Too many people need to learn the difference between holding some one's hand and trying to chain their soul. Being there to support and love your partner in an unconditional manner should follow through in all arenas of life. Monogamy is a very selfish, immature and insecure concept. Smart, well rounded, intelligent people are not shaken because their partner has a desire to try something different. As I tell most people: sex is like food - life is like a Vegas buffet. If you can have Indian then Mexican then Italian on your plate because it's being offered, then why settle to only eat a cheese sandwich? Granted there are thousands of different cheeses and breads in this world but when you break it down - it's just a cheese sandwich. Variety is the spice of life.

Sadly too many women in this country are raised on American media which teaches them that they have no value unless they are physically
appealing. It makes for some very insecure female creatures in this nation. I wish more women knew their own value. If there ever came a day when the man I am seeing felt a stronger connection to some one else then me I would support him moving on completely. But I don't think that will happen. If it does it won't be sex that lures him away, not in this case. It would be a deeper connection and really if you don't have that with your partner do you really want to give up your freedom to be with them?

(Now a long pause and wait for some one to read this, become enraged and respond) lol ~.o


Brian's Friend Adiel replies:


Hi guys.

I think how you think about this issue ultimately comes back to whether you believe marriage and sex is something that was arbitrarily invented by the descendants of ape-like creatures ie animals (albeit advanced animals) OR designed, created, and instituted by the Creator Himself with a holy purpose: to display His glory. With that in mind I share with you what the Bible says is the ultimate purpose of marriage: http://desiringgod.org/resource-library/sermons/staying-married-is-not-about-staying-in-love-part-1

God bless



My Reply:

I do believe in God however I do not believe in the man made device of religion as a whole. It contradicts it's self completely in that religions tell people that they were created as an individual but then try to restrict behaviors on a mass basis and dictate how each person should have a relationship with their higher power, rather then allowing each person to grow in their faith and as a person on their own. Which is really what free will is all about isn't it?

In addition to that all religious text is written by man: Both man and woman are flawed and each will impress his or her own imperfect emotions, ideals and views upon what they are writing. I do not believe sex or commitment need to be outlined by any one other then the people involved in said acts. Religion and religious views have killed more people on this earth through out history then any other reason for war combined. So please tell me why I would allow any such entity to have control over my thoughts, feelings, actions, behaviors and how I live my day to day life? If you are not evolved enough to know how to act in a moral and respectful manner to the other living beings you share this planet with as well as the gifts God gives us on your own without the assistance of outside influences, I pity you greatly.

As for my beliefs on Sex and Marriage:

Sex: I believe that it does not have to happen in the confines of being in love or having a life long commitment to the person you commit that act with. However when it does happen with some one you love and share a deep bond with it, it is so much more amazing and meaningful.

Marriage: If you really love some one God knows it with out ceremony and regardless of the circumstance. Marriage for evolved persons holds no meaning. It was created by aristocrats and is an archaic concept that was used to control the spread of disease as well as to control the ignorant and poor from mass populating and over throwing those in leadership. In today's age the act of getting married seems to me to be more so a show of financial swagger, then an actual act of love and commitment. As I have said to many of my Christian friends, "If you need to wear a cross for some one to know you are Christian, you are doing something wrong." If people need to stand before God and their families to prove to one another that there is a real loving bond between them, chances are there probably isn't. Giving your heart and making a life long commitment to some one when it's real; it needs no ceremony.  Love and commitment are evident and they shines all on their own without social or religious pomp and circumstance. Rings, words, dresses, $150 a head receptions: they are all meaningless unless their real emotion, true unconditional love and heartfelt sincerity in the couple's connection. When two people have that, all of what I have just stated seems shallow compared to the love they share.

Adiel I will leave you with two things:

First: God is an Elephant in a dark room.

A Jew will touch his tusk and say that he is hard and smooth, a Christian his skin and say that God is rough and dry and yet a Buddhist his tail and say that God is soft and fluffy. They will all argue that they are right and the others are wrong in their views and opinions, when in fact it would be more prudent to simply celebrate the fact that they all managed to find God each in their own way despite the darkness.

I believe it was Ghandi that is credited to this quote.

Second: Human Existence

One of the greatest aspects of human existence is the knowledge of self worth
If this one part of life is achieved, There is no mountain that can not be moved
No evil that will go unconquered, no man woman or child that will be harmed
For when a person learns self worth a realization that others should be respected soon follows
In concurrence with that respect is consideration and compassion for humanity, environment and everything betwixt the two
There are far too few people of this world that have had this knowledge,
It is unfortunately evident in every other aspect of human existence

I wrote this when I was 16 years old.



Adiel O. Corchado:

Jayme,

I always find your comments on Brian's wall interesting even this one. That was a mouth full though. I don't even know where to begin! For me it's easier to talk about one thing at a time. Sorry, I'm kind of slow like that :p But OK ...I'll try to address a few of the things you said.

OK, you said, "Religion and religious views have killed more people on this earth through out history then any other reason for war combined."

I don't know if you realize this (though it certainly looks like you do) but "religion" itself is sin according to the Bible. Religion = Trying to appease God by works (eg sitting on a pew every Sunday, donating money to charity, doing good deeds, etc). So you're actually kinda right. And yeah, terrible evil has been done in the name of God and religion throughout history. If you give me a chance, later on, I'd like to tell you what is the most egregious act of terrorism that has ever been committed in the name of God. With that said, I disagree with your statement. More people were killed by atheistic regimes in the 20th century alone that all of past religious history combined eg Mao Tse Tung, Lenin and Stalin and Khrushchev, Pol Pot, etc. These things were done not necessarily in the name of "atheism" (what does that even mean?) but by regimes that had left God out of the equation. So I don't think the ultimate culprit for all this wickedness is "religion" per se but what the Bible describes as the radical depravity of people like you and me.

You said, "In addition to that all religious text is written by man: Both man and woman are flawed and each will impresses his or her own imperfect emotions, ideals and views upon what they are writing."

True. But this also applies to everything you just wrote. Should I then not believe anything you wrote? ;)

But seriously though you're right. Man is flawed, imperfect, and sinfully motivated. But that is not so with God. What the Bible claims is that God (who is flawless, perfect, and holy and pure) is so powerful that He is able to give us His word unadulterated even through imperfect people. It's like, when you write a note, who did the writing: you or the pen? Can you write a true statement using an imperfect pen? Sure you can. You can grab a broken, twisted pen and write "2 + 2 = 4" and there you have it. Well, that's sort of what the Bible says God did through men:

"knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

You asked, "So please tell me why I would allow any such entity to have control over my thoughts, feelings, actions, behaviors and how I live my day to day life?"

When you say "any such entity" I'm not exactly sure what kind of entity you have in mind. I can only tell you what the God of the Bible is like and then maybe you can ask me the question again with more specifics?

This is how God describes Himself:

"The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, long suffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty"

What do you think?



My Reply:

Actually Adiel you need to check your facts on the death tolls because my thinking goes back further then just a couple of mere centuries. If you want to look at the Crusades we can, lets not even go into the the atrocities that pre-christian cultures committed on one another for their God or Gods. I wouldn't suspect you would include them since you don't recognize them as being real deities but to those cultures they were. Have you forgotten that mythologies, all of them had a God of War? From the Mayans to the Norse to the Greeks, but I digress. Should we talk about Hitler or the 2,000+ year old war between the Jews and Muslims in Israel? Should we go into our own country's fight for freedom from religious oppression? Did you forget our forefathers first came here to get away from the Church of England? Which was what lead to the heavy taxation by the English Parliament, highly influenced by the Church of England all of which was swayed by King George the 3rd who was also prince-elector of Hanover which was part of the Holy Roman Empire.

Fact is no other reason that exists in this world comes even close to the number of people that have been killed by religious beliefs and yes hence religion.

But let's take your examples:

Lenin: Vladimir Lenin was a Russian Marxist revolutionary and from Marxist beliefs helped to develop Leninism which comprises political and socialist economic theories. Leninism was developed from Marxism, and Lenin's interpretations of Marxist theory within the agrarian Russian Empire of the early 20th century. Marx's beliefs are derived not wholly but in part are influenced by Epicurean theory. Epicurus didn’t deny the existence of gods. Instead, he stated that: what gods there may be do not concern themselves with us, and thus would not seek to punish us either in this or any other life. So if you follow me around the long road Lenin's actions and beliefs are not completely absent of the concept that God or Gods exist. Just that God doesn't care about how we act and that we will not be punished. Therefore disproving your concept that his motives and actions are completely atheistic or void of religious belief.

Stalin: Joseph V. Stalin entered into a non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany. As we all know Hilter's cleansing of Germany while not entirely based on killing the Jewish population, was a main focus of his regime and is what World War II is best known for. This agreement was followed by the Soviet invasion of Poland, Finland, the Baltics, Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. Stalin was also a staunch follower of Lenin-Marxism.

Khrushchev: Records show many meetings w/ Stalin during his reign. Also that he was a staunch follower of Stalin. His actions were in turn fruit from the poisonous Nazi/Stalin tree as well as Lenin-Marxism.

Mao Tse Tung: Mao drew information from the writings of Marx, Engels and Lenin in elaborating his theory.

Pol Pot: Saloth Sar aka Pol Pot's party adapted elements of Theravada Buddhism to justify their non-standard version of communism.

So explain to me again how any of these leaders actions were void of religion when their political theories were based on the teachings of people who were categorized as either religious leaders or great philosophers?

phi·los·o·pher –noun
1. a person who offers views or theories on profound questions in ethics, metaphysics, logic, and other related fields.
2. a person who is deeply versed in philosophy.
3. a person who establishes the central ideas of some movement, cult, etc.

Movements, cults, theories on profound questions - sounds like philosophers and religious leaders are one and the same. O.o

As far as my writings go. I do not proclaim nor have I ever that my word is the word of God. Again your religious text that states that God can convey his word with out flaw or influence are the writings of humans. I know a lot of men who will say anything to get what they want. Most people are drawn into being or becoming powerful. What is more powerful then having people believe your words come from a higher power? Motives again my darling on why this text came to be and reasoning behind them being written.

My belief is that God wouldn't inspire any of his or her words to be written. God, if truly a supreme being, would not seek to super impose us with his or her rules but would allow us to live the life he or she gave us freely as we so chose. If that not be the intent why make us able to think freely? Why give us the ability to reason and make discernment? Why create us with the ability to have empathy and concern as well as to learn? Why give us self realization?

I can see how power hungry, frightened humans would impose their thoughts and conditions upon one another. Not only in an attempt to control one another for power purposes but to cement their place in history because as we are all aware our lives are fleeting.

Your definition of how one man stated God describes himself is sweet and almost child like in understanding. But I am sure that when the day comes and you meet your maker you can explain to him or her why you chose not to use the gift of your mind which was clearly given to you. You will have to atone for why you chose not to think on your own and instead chose to be lazy and follow the words of other humans. When you talk about sin the only real sin in this world that needs to be forgiven is the fact that people allow themselves to be ruled by other humans and their teachings. It is safer and easier to do that rather then engaging and immersing yourself into the wonderful play ground and wealth of knowledge displayed before us. This is truly the greatest blessing that God offers us. The gift of our life and the freedom to do with it what we so chose. You will not find the knowledge our creator intends in any book, passage or scripture.

“The kingdom of God is within you and all around you. It is not within buildings of wood or stone. Split a piece of wood and you will find me. Look beneath a stone and I am there”. - Stigmata


Adiel O. Corchado:

Jayme I believe that more evil has been done in the name of God and religion than you can ever imagine.

Actually, I think many of the religions in the world were started by people doing exactly what you're doing in this post: inventing a go...d of their own understanding:

"My belief is that God wouldn't " ___________________ (insert what you would like your god to be or not be, do or not do)

"God, if truly a supreme being would not seek to " __________ (insert anything you disagree with)

"the only real sin in this world that needs to be forgiven is " _________ (insert here what you subjectively feel is wrong and you would subjectively prefer people not to do)

"when the day comes and you meet your maker you... You will have to " __________ (prophesy what will happen in the future to those who disagree with you)

Hopefully no one takes your views seriously because before you know it we might wind up with yet another false religion in the world in the name of which more blood might be spilled!

Now, Jayme, you may consider this the reasonable assessment produced your own rational mind of who / what god truly is, but the Bible calls it "idolatry". Idolatry is when you fashion your own personalized version of God tailor made to suit your needs. This is actually a violation of the 1st and 2nd of the Ten Commandments:

“You shall have no other gods before Me."

“You shall not make for yourself any idols"

You may think this is no big deal however the real God condemns this severely:

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor IDOLATERS, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."

Also, you didn't really answer my question, did you see the "contradiction" in how God describes Himself?

 
My Reply:

lmao - Inventing a God of my own understanding? How about my views of God and religion as I see fit and is my right according to the laws of this nation? Or did you forget as a Christian only God is allowed to sit in judgment of your fellow... human beings?

Adiel the only thing that I find to be false in this entire conversation other then the human born and canonized bullshit text you keep spouting, is the fact that a rational, intelligent human being can be so brain washed as to think that their religion's views are the only ones that are correct.

In fact in stating those two first commandments if they are truly God's word - you break them in engaging in your religious practices as well as in condemning me for my views:

In going to church you worship the words of a man - any preacher, priest or minister is not God therefore you place a false God before having a one on one connection with your maker. You clutch to your biblical text rather then having a real connection to God. Again having the words of men come before your real creator.

Actually you are wrong about your definition:

Idolatry( as per www.dictionary.com):

noun, plural -tries.
1. the religious worship of idols.
2. excessive or blind adoration, reverence, devotion, etc.

You condemn me for my words saying I should not make false idols but you yourself take on the form of an idol in your condemnation of me.

That is your view of God not mine. There are billions of people who don't ascribe to your version of God does that make you idolatry or them? You follow religion blindly with out question. I would guess it is you.

When I speak I speak in terms of what I think, what I feel. As a human being with a mind, wow, I think I am allowed to do that? (lmao - threw that in just for you Brian)

Fact is we could go on with me showing you how a free thinker thinks and feels about life and God and religion but I do not believe in engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

But I will leave you with an educational and real story:

When I was young I wanted to become a Catholic Priest. I loved going to church on Sunday with my Nanny (father's mother). When I got older I did a lot of Catholic Ministry in my local area. I was allowed by the chaplain at my high school to proclaim the Gospel at one of our masses on a retreat. He confided in me that he thought I would have made a great priest. He also told me that many women had been priests as well as bishops and cardinals during the black plague. I asked why there was no record of them and why the church no longer allowed women to be ordained. He stated that during World War II the Catholic church didn't step in and stop the persecution of the Jews because they made an agreement with Hitler. All of the books that were burned and had been considered sacrilegious weren't all Jewish text. That a lot of the books were the records and accounts of the brave women who gave last rights to dying people all over Europe at a time when men feared being part of the church. Despite my sadness over what he told me I stayed with the church for another two years.

I went on another retreat that was a new concept for the church. It was a college retreat where part of the time we could ask questions about our faith because the church felt that people strayed away from the church at that age due to skepticism. The three priests who were running the retreat boldly boasted that between them they had over 100 years of priestly knowledge.
My first question to them was, " Why aren't women allowed to become priests?" Their reply was, " Because Jesus chose 12 male apostles." They went on to say, " But women can become nuns."

I then asked,"What are the main differences between a nun and a priest?" They replied,"A Priest can hear confessions and do last rights, they can prepare the body and blood of Christ and they can preach the Gospel according to God."

I then asked, " When Jesus walked his last walk on the cross who did he speak to?" Before they could answer, " I said according to our own Bible as well as stations of the cross; Jesus met his mother, Mary and Veronica who wiped his face on his last walk and they were the last people to hear his words, were they not?" "Yes," they agreed with me.

I then asked," And who was it that was sent to prepared Jesus's body for burial and proclaimed that Christ was God and he had risen?" Again before they could answer I stated, " Was it not Mary Magdalene and in some references include the "other Mary" who were sent to prepare the body of Christ and proclaimed the first Christian gospel that Christ had risen?"

I said,"So God chose two women to hear Jesus's last confession, God chose two women to prepare the body of our Lord and he chose two women to proclaim the first Gospel that Christ was in fact our Savior?"

They then asked me," Why did Jesus only choose male disciples?" I said," Because humanity was not fair to women at that time. They were not taught to read and write but men were. In order for the church to survive Jesus knew there needed to be messengers that could read and write. Why hasn't the church recognized women as society has progressed? More importantly why can a 19 year old uneducated woman see God's message so clearly when three priests with over 100 years of religious knowledge can not?"

And with that, question and answer session was over and so was my faith in the church. I love God with all my heart. I think Christ is an amazing holy figure. I also think that people like Mother Theresa are a sign of holy inspiration. But I am sad and disappointed in the concept of religion as a whole. I have not found one that suits me completely.

Sunday, September 5, 2010

5 Love Songs Almost Every Man Should Sing To His Woman


R. Kelly

When a woman loves
She, she loves for real
When a woman loves
She, she, she loves for real
She took me back
After I broke her heart
About a thousand times
She gave her life to me
With no regrets, she followed me
And she, and she, the girl she raised me
And I’m forever indebted, I’m forever indebted, I’m forever indebted to her cause
When a woman loves
She, she, she loves for real
When a woman loves
She, she, she loves for real
She filled my soul
With the very touch of her hand
She really did
And she’s got more, more faith in me than a beach got sand
And I like to tell ha, I like to tell ha, that I’m forever indebted,, that I’m forever indebted, forever indebted
Cause when a woman loves
She, she, she loves for real
Yea, yea
See a woman loves
It would never die young
Even when I’m dead and gone, I’m gonna love her from the sky
Cause she’s given me something that no other woman has given me (Whooooo)
When I think about you girl it makes me think
When, when, when, when a woman
When a
Woman
Loves
She loves for real (oh)
When a woman loves, loves, loves
I’m tellin you when she loves
She, she loves for real
Yea, yea, yea
When she loves (When she loves) (6X)
She (When she loves) (3x)
She loves for real


Paul McCartney

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time
Maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you
Maybe I'm amazed at the way you pulled me out of time
And hung me on a line

Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you
Baby I'm a man maybe I'm a lonely man
Who's in the middle of something
That he doesn't really understand

Baby I'm a man and maybe you're the only woman
Who could ever help me
Baby won't you help me understand,Oooohh

Baby I'm a man, maybe I'm a lonely man
Who's in the middle of something
That he doesn't really understand

Baby I'm a man and maybe you're the only woman
Who could ever help me
Baby won't you help me understand, oohhh

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you're with me all the time
Maybe I'm afraid of the way I leave you
Maybe I'm amazed at the way you help me sing my song
Right me when I'm wrong
Maybe I’m amazed at the way I really need you

Oh,Oh,ohhh, yeah, oh,oh ohhh yeahh Oo-oo


Bob Dylan ( Performed by Billy Joel)

When the rain is blowing in your face
And the whole world is on your case
I could offer you a warm embrace
To make you feel my love
When the evening shadows and the stars appear
And there is no one there to dry your tears
I could hold you for a million years
To make you feel my love
I know you haven’t made your mind up yet
But I would never do you wrong
I’ve known it from the moment that we met
No doubt in my mind where you belong
I’d go hungry, I’d go black and blue
I’d go crawling down the avenue
There’s nothing that I wouldn’t do
To make you feel my love
The storms are raging on the rollin’ sea
And on the highway of regret
The winds of change are blowing wild and free
You ain’t seen nothing like me yet
I could make you happy, make your dreams come true
Nothing that I wouldn’t do
Go to the ends of the earth for you
To make you feel my love


Travis Tritt (Performed by ScottMC123)

My baby knows me better than I do
Funny how a woman has that over a man
I can do anything with her here beside me
Leaning on her is where I make my stand

Where would we be without the love of a woman
Standing behind her man even when he's wrong
The true pure undying love of a woman
Makes a man a fool to think he can make it alone

My daddy was a wild one when he was younger
Everybody told my mama he'd be hard to tame
Full of himself he said 'sir' to nobody
But you oughta see him come a runnin' when mama calls his name

Where would we be without the love of a woman
Standing behind her man even when he's wrong
The true pure undying love of a woman
Makes a man a fool to think he can make it alone
Oh, yeah...

A man goes crazy trying to catch his feelings
Too much pride or maybe the words come out wrong
But that's okay 'cause he's still her hero
Steady as a rock, her love keeps rolling along

Where would we be without the love of a woman
Standing behind her man even when he's wrong
The true pure undying love of a woman
Makes a man a fool to think he can make it alone

Makes a man a fool to think he can make it alone
 
 
Bryan Adams

Look into my eyes - you will see
What you mean to me
Search your heart - search your soul
And when you find me there you'll search no more

Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
You know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you

Look into your heart - you will find
There's nothin' there to hide
Take me as I am - take my life
I would give it all - I would sacrifice

Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for
I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
Ya know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you

There's no love - like your love
And no other - could give more love
There's nowhere - unless you're there
All the time - all the way

Oh - you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
I would fight for you - I'd lie for you
Walk the wire for you - ya I'd die for you

Ya know it's true
Everything I do - I do it for you